Re: Independence???????? Atleast I never enjoyed in last 57 yrs of my life.....Alok‏

• Re: Independence???????? Atleast I never enjoyed in last 57 yrs of my life.....Alok‏

22-08-2011

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 vinod malshe

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Dear All
I saw this early in my life. I did not become an enterprenuer even though I developed more than 100 technologies and new products , all for my clients and employers. They gave me some money for it and I remained satisfied with it because I did not have to bribe nay one to earn it.
Malshe

On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Alok Tholia <tholiya@hotmail.com> wrote:

Unfortunately I cant reciprocate as I was born as a slave, I have been
living here as a slave of bureaucrats since birth, who keep on harassing,
demanding bribe, make me run abt , keep delaying, etc etc . They keep me ill
informed abt my rights and privileges, they snatch away my time, money, and
put me under lot of pressures. Due to this pathetic condition I cant
celebrate any independence and I m not hypocrite  to still say some nice
words while living in fear and terror.

And even politicians who give a smile ( unlike growling burracrats ) but
have never been of use as I go to them empty handed. Yes all those Ambanis,
tata's Birlas, Mallaya, dawood, Telgi, harshad Mehta, builders, hotelires,
mafias, mandir mafias, college mafias like D Y Patil ,  etc etc who carried
brief cases and suitcases get all rights, privileges, their matter heard
faster and all licnecs issued, policies amended to sit them, land allotted
in jiffy and I kept seeing them rise crushing all common man. May be they
are celebrating what u r too celebrating.

Sorry, May be RTI has given me some freedom. May be more will come
when Annaji s Lokpal Bill is passed and finally 100% freedom will come when
courts can deliver justice in an year or so. Till then dont wish me such
things which sprinkles mirchi  on my wounds.

In 57 years I have never been welcome to any govt office, no police,
municipalty, govt has ever given me any respect, never ever extended help
smilingly rather most often I had been heckled as a stray dog in their
corridors as I dont carry any bribe money.

.....writer is a common man of India suffering with 1000 of wounds in heart
of bearing insults and rude treatment from junior to senior govt personnel.

www.aloktholiya.blogspot.com

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Its a very noble thought Alokji and i wish you all the success in it. I would also like to offer my services for those thoughts in any small way i can. 

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Alok Tholiya <atholiya@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Why not start from the days of independence from foreigners( independence form brutal present system is still pending).

1. Congress to most parties became political which had started as a movement. 
2. I encourage all to take part in managing society, ALM, and fianlly join politics. I had tried my hand in politics too. Am satisfied with whatever little I cud do. Now I dont want to and will never contest any elections. 
3. But I want all good citizens to give some years in politics once their education, family and career front is reasonably done. 
4. I want shri Krish, shri Jalan, Shri Ahya, Shri Mayank , shri Bhagawanji, Shri ........ and even Baba Ramdev, Shri Nana Chudasama, Shri Annaji, Shri Kejriwal, Shri Hegde,Shri Shiv Khera, Capt Gopinath, and so many ( i am forgetting names)   etc  etc all to contest and win elections. So that I can really see criminal , corruption free govt./ parliament. 
5. How can u see Annaji and like out and keep vacuum in politics so criminals enter?? What a fallacy?? U r uncomfortable if civil society and likes enter the politics and u also want criminals free politics. Can we go for some course on psycho leadership course. Everyone wants good people in politics but not their own family members, staff, their neighbors ( good ones) , their heroes. Then how do u get good leaders??? 
6. Is it a  jealousy but undiagnosed or goals set wrong? ?? If my objective is to see that my future generation gets a better govt, better society,better country to live in that if I cud not do it then should I not allow others to do it so my future generation gets what I have dreampt for them. It is like I cud not save my child from drowning then no one else should save and let crocodile take him away. 
7. A good leadser is to be seen as good leader and not what is his age, cast, language, whether he is close to me or not, whether he is from my area or state or not etc etc.. 
8. Pl. everyone clear foggy mind. It is difficult but try. Listen to Kabir, Osho, Dada waswani and other similar people so we follow a right path without seeing our personal har jeet. In the matter of country it is collective objective and better tomorrow and be on border against enemy or against sinister rulers. And let any good person come to power may be we like him in personal capacity or not but whether he is better then present lot. Sorry no time to draft well , Office staff forcing me as they want to go home. But good , if message isnot clear then no longer message will convince .
   
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On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Krishnaraj Rao <sahasipadyatri@gmail.com> wrote:

 

18 August 2011: Whenever public anger spills out on the streets and media goes into overdrive, a new political party is born or gains ascendancy. Many a new party in its infancy appears like a socio-political movement. When the dust settles, the movement is over, and only the party remains.

Marriage is not a game but a union to be preserved and cherished for life.

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Re: Lawyersclubindia.com: Forum.......and my reply to one querist on divorce...Alok X Inbox X Trash X Reply to all amol sutrale to me show details 6:49 PM (8 hours ago) Dear Alokji, Very aptly replied. Marriage is not a game but a union to be preserved and cherished for life. If this guy was not ready for marriage and its consequences then he should not have married in the first place. Very soon I will invite you to join me to stand shoulder to shoulder in a movement to protect the sanctity of the institution of marriage in India. regards, Adv. Amol V. Sutrale. On 8/15/11, Alok Tholiya <atholiya@gmail.com> wrote: > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Lawyersclubindia.com: Forum <lawyersclubindia@gmail.com> > Date: Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 5:44 AM > Subject: Lawyersclubindia.com: Forum > To: atholiya@gmail.com > > > ** >    Lawyersclubindia.com: Forum <http://www.lawyersclubindia.com/> > > <http://fusion.google.com/add?source=atgs&feedurl=http://feeds.feedburner.com/LawyersclubindiacomForum> > > > <https://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/BtSVONYcX3Owc6oi3vfHmBhnvOg/f67c-qiL0GEKIIT1AkXW8H81KgA/1/pa> > > Want expert > advice<http://www.lawyersclubindia.com/forum/Want-expert-advice-42376.asp> > > Posted: 14 Aug 2011 04:45 PM PDT

Everything you've said is valid EXCEPT

Mr Alok Tholiya,

 

Everything you've said is valid EXCEPT clause 8. U've demarked  the enactment of The Bill on issues beyond 15 August 2011. This is not acceptable. With this clause in your appeal or anywhere in the draft, all the work and protests will be for NOTHING. Because all that's been done so far, NEEDS to be undone. PRONTO.

 

So, please, while doing urgent action, please be COOL and THINK RIGHT.I've cc the clarification to all  your addresses hoping you won't mind seeing to the urgency of the matter and clear thinking. u'r fears on Anna ji, are exactly mine.  May he live long and healthy. God Bless.

 

THQ

 

Pushpa J Vijula

 

 

 

 

--- On Mon, 15/8/11, Alok Tholiya <atholiya@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Alok Tholiya <atholiya@gmail.com>
Subject: [rti4empowerment] urgent urgent pl. circulate fast..... Alok the coward who did not reach Delhi to support Annaji..

 

1. Pl. note that like we the  common men even  police constables, junior govt. staff, soldiers who laid life and lay life have all been sufferers under this heartless corrupt regime post independence. Adarsh apt. is a sample pc.  where top military, police, bureaucratic looters , politicians of various parties have been all ganged up to gobble the precious land. While junior have been left to take bribe , tips of few rupees. These juniors feel that for this paltry salary and some extra income they must work like a obidient robots of their masters who gobble in hundreds of crores. No they need not. We as activists have to explain them if we are able to remove this massive corruption at high levels then even their lot will benefit. I request all specially women those who plan to join  Annaji's march and Anashan to carry Rakhi and a single rose and tie in the hands of policemen. Guide them to the fact how trillions have been eaten away by these top notch or else their life cud have been much better. Even moguls melted when Rakhi was offered to them then I dont think policemen are going to be be worst then Moguls and charge lathi on them blindly? And if still they do it then not even their own future generation will like tom respect them and their name in history will go in black letters. 
2. Pl. note that they may attack Annaji or his team suddenly tonight or any time even before start of Andolan. Very dangerous. But u cant do much except keep powerful audio video recorders all around on. Not one or two but in hundreds , all mobiles , all personal cameras, all TV  channels cameras, specially from foreign media.Otherwise stooges of RAW and CBI will spraed some confusion and then in the name of law and order blow a heavy hand on krantikari deshbhaktas. I am sure few life will go but the evidence to pin them should not go. All evidence must be immediately uploaded as whatever cameras they will see will be broken , snatched or confiscated. 
3. Some one must hurry up and take court orders that if Annaji and other seniors are arrested then they must be full time kept under CCTV and other loyalists be allowed with them as like kidneys of JP were spoilt they will do something similar to wipe out irritants from scene in short time in mysterious way. From Netaji, Loh pusrush to many have lost life this way.
4. All those in parliament, assemblies,corporations other services ( cant specify as they will arrest me for deshdroh) want to join list of freedom fighters and want to write their names in history in golden letters will have to resign the moment Annaji is arrested. 
5. I was seeing some TV show hosted by Arnab and I appreciate his clarity of thoughts, his boldness and he is proving to be something like Kesariji of modern Media. We are lucky to have some good journalist who have have courage to show wrong doings of power and wrongful authority. 
6. I request all intellectuals to call upon judiciary to play a very responsible role as very important chapter of  history is going to be written shortly. 
7. I appeal to  Rahul Gandhi to wake up and rise to the occasion. None from her dadi to father to chacha have taken anything from this world and nor he will. Why work for lost battle. Why not change side and be with winners and be leader now and be a hero for centuries. 
8. Govt can as a solution ( which I know my dear respected activists and freedom fighters will not agree) make a bill covering PM, judiciary and all others for issues beyond 15th August 2011 as assure hence forth corruption free India.  
9. I request all other countries  ( USA has done it and shown courage to respect right to agitation) to pass statement similar to what America has done. 
10. I request international human rights bodies and other respected organisations to rush to India and make their presence prominent so no one plays foul play. Even we can have international Umpires in cricket than our present issue is much more important to get international Umpires. 
11. Pakistan can defenitly try to en-cash if undemocratic steps are taken by govt of India and yet proudly claim themselves a captain of largest democratic ship and yet show Pakistan in poor light. Now Pak will use these films and Videos to show the rulers of India crushing innocent citizens under their brutal boots. 
12. Even Gandhiji broke law of Britishers by having salt / namak anddolan. But the crooked advocate of congress Ashwin Kumar was repeatedly saying how can Annaji a self proclaimed Gandhian take law in hands and break 144. No firstly he declared first the andolan and 144 was imposed later to create anarchy and create fear in the minds of peaceful agitators and deshpremi. So he is not breaking any law. Then he is not self proclaimed but we take him as 2nd Gandhiji. He is willing to die for us and our future generation.
    

May Annaji live long. May commonmen including junior police, govt staff, and all others loin him for better tomorrow for our future generations. 

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Thanks and Regards,
Alok Tholiya,
www.aloktholiya.blogspot.com

a million dollar article

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Wonderful a million dollar article, an eye opener!

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A good elderly advice given

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dear Shi Tholiya

A good elderly advice given.  let  us hope good sense prevails upon Mr. Sachin Desai and marital relationship restored between him and his wife without any  bitter divorce proceedings. Both of them can  call on some good marriage  counselor. Mr. Sachin. do not be in a hurry for divorce proceedings.

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