[MIFAC] Re: Regarding Akar Tithi Darshika and my mail to callous and biased samaj

Bharat Churiwala ✆ bchuriwala@gmail.com via yahoogroups.com 16:48 (4 hours ago) to menow Respected Alokji, Namaste. I am really very much pained by reading your email. I want to offer my service for this cause FREE of charge. As you know, I have always considered your Father Shri B L Tholiyaji as my Goadfather ( I could not find any other suitable word in any other language for "Daddyji"!). Please let me know, How can I be of any service to society. Bharat ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [MIFAC] Re: Regarding Akar Tithi Darshika and my mail to callous and biased samaj From: Mr Alok Tholiya My father Shri B L Tholiya has been doing this honarary work for last 17 years and Aker Printers limited were very generously printing same at below cost/ subsidised rate. No Jain organisation thought to help / assist / promote/ or appriciate.Yet they (Shri Ashok Jain of Akar and shri B L Tholiyaji, practicing Cost accountant) were doing same for 17 years ( ofcourse with the help of their own staff and wellwishers like Shri D C Jain/Patodi). In our samaj only donors ( for pratishtha,samuhik bhojan) get recognition and not the one who does something directly for Samal and its members.My father is not able to draft/ prepare matter of same due to his age 89 years and health.Sorry. But that is not the reson to stop same but the apathy of Samaj which does not produce 2nd order to take over for reasons mantioned above. One day same will be fate of my matrimonial site www.digambarjains.com . Why should any one from my family/ friends / staff should put in effort for a thankless job.And if same time and money I had given in some boli then may be I would be on dias treated as VIP. Money (dhan) is must but those who put their valueable time, efforts must be equally treated so that more volunteers come forward. If u find some other source then pl. let me know as I too would like to buy some copies. If you can also find someone who can prepare Darshika matter as per Digambar Jain calender then pl. advise.We are willing to pay for same. Thanks and Regards, Alok Tholiya ============================================================================================================================== To: Mr Alok Tholiya Sent: Wednesday, 23 November 2011 11:27 AM Subject: Regarding Darshika Dear Sir, Jai Jinendra Hope you are doing well, this is a mail regarding the aakar tithi darshika for the year of 2011, as our earlier discussion you told me regarding that it will take some time due to the health issue of your father. kindly let me know the status.. -- Pratik Jain (Monty) +91-95701-59311

Helping hands r better

Ashok Jain ✆ Sep 30 to me Truly said. Regards. ashok From: Alok Tholiya [mailto:atholiya@gmail.com] Sent: 30 September 2011 06:14 To: Jain Matrimonials; menow; MIFAC yahoogroup; RESORTS TIMESHARE; Santacruz Civic Forum Subject: My sisters flight was in next one hour, I cud not find communication center being traveller and Lo I got help from an unknown office Dear Prakashji, Bank of Baroda Building, Ahinsa Circle, Jaipur. Namaskar. I sincerely thank you for ur kind gesture of extending help and sending the scan to my sister. Thanks to one and all in your office. You are a best example of slogan which u use "Helping Hands are Better than Praying Lips" who extended help to me when I walked in as an stranger and sought to use ur scanner and pc for emailing some urgent travel documents. And I can not only thank you but am inspired to continue to do good work. All the credit for what I will do thru this inspiration will go to you in gods account. Let me know if I can be of any assistance in Mumbai. Thanks and Regards, Alok Tholiya, On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 4:16 PM, prakash maldhani wrote: see it "Helping Hands are Better than Praying Lips" CONFIDENTIAL NOTE: The information contained in this email is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication (other than to the intended recipient) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete the mail.

Pl. narrate in writing your experience of Jail so others can benefit / get first hand info....my mails are always awareness mails which can save one from imminent danger if acted upon...

v.v. mishra ✆ vmishra70@gmail.com 10:18 (11 hours ago) to me Good Morning, I seen the contents of your mail and send more. with regards V.Mishra Advocate -- V.MISHRA & Co. Advocates, Legal,Corporate,Taxation & Finance Consultants Head Office: Manish Chember, 502, 5th Floor, Above Goregaon Postoffice/Axis Bank, Sonawala Road,,Goregaon East, Mumbai 400 063.INDIA Phone:(022) 32679444/ 64128205 Mobile : 91- 9322819511 / 9820158350 Branch Offices: Delhi Off: R-24,Rita Block,IInd Floor, Media Centre,Vikas Marg,Shakarpur, New Delhi- 110 092. Mobile:09350739115. Goa off: Shop No. 26,Phoenix Plaza, Alto Maupsa,Bardez, Goa -403 507. Mobile:09321450982. Pune Off: Rajkamal 2, Opp. Cox & King,Prabhat Road, Near Kelkar Nursing Home, Pune - 411 004. On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Alok Tholiya wrote: > Most often it is noted that children have hurt themselves fatally as they > were copying the TV serials/ games/ movies. Same way many act in the way > innocently / ignorantly inflicting injury to self / family nera ones cause > they do not know repercussions/ law and what may follow. The way TV shows > telgi and other waving when being escorted to courts from jails many get the > idea that going to jail is like just the other tour. Nay. When activists > were jailed and they told the experience of just two days then same were > frightening. Not all can spend in millions to get bail/ luxuries > unofficially/ parole etc etc.. So !!!???? Is is better to avoid a situation > / act which will lead to that sorrowful path. But no many want you to be > strict, fearless, cunning,street smart, braek laws , take short cuts to > success or prosperity or vilasita. All those who advise like this are those > who will not go with you to Jail but will incite you to be strict/ lusty/ > shrewd etc.. True friend is one who says sacrifice anything but not peace, > health and reputation. > > Often awareness also helps in putting break to one who knows not to apply > breaks and meets an accident and causes loss to all accompanying him too. > > Therefore I am requesting my dear friend activists to Pl. narrate in writing > their experience of Jail so others can benefit / get first hand info....my > mails are always awareness mails which can save one from imminent danger if > acted upon / corrective steps taken in time...Alok > > > > My respected activists friends, ( Mr Afzal , Krish and others), > Jai hind. > > My eldest child is 27 now. Believe me in last 27 yrs I have never ever > slapped them once. But I see incidents of parents beating children often , > husbands beating wife is our national character and in some cases children / > children in law even beat parents as parents at old age make u feel irritate > due to old age cynical, physical and other conditions.. > > How I managed to live without beating child? ( besides they too were very > good) > > no wrong exposure to them > no fulfilling of unnecessary demands > not showed any double standard > never used lies before them > used live examples to make point very clear > bought good comics,books etc > sent them to Yoga institute at early age > my great parents and wife too were and are great inspiration to them and > have set good examples > if one of us ( parents or grand ) is telling them anything to mend / > understand / be careful etc then never other person did take side or advise > to let go or advised to over look. However since 3-4 years my wife has > started believing more in modern world , my near ones too and stop me if I > advise to children. They say u dont know what other children are doing, how > they live, how they enjoy, how they behave. I fail to understand why compare > with others. But now since they are given shelter / support by others they > don't listen to me as much as they used to.If one of the parent takes side > then as nature would have it they would lean more on the more convenient > shoulder(and mostly convenient shoulders are easily to take support but bad > as they never let you stand straight/ right) who is giving cover to hide > behind. And hence the other parent who gives right advise looks boring, > unpractical,too bitter etc .In last few years I have lost my influence on > my children because : > > A. Some one at home started undermining my roll. The more I am pulled up > before them the more I am loosing my respect and influence on my children. > > B. Many so called well wishers when meet my children or my wife in my > absence they criticize my mails/ my attitude, my living, my thinking my > small earning. My family members fail to understand that only a cheap > spineless person will criticize a person in absence.My family members fail > to understand if they are given pleasantries, gifts etc but at the same > times given a dose against another family members then this host is not > your well wisher but your enemy who is trying to break your house, who is > creating a rebel in you for no rhyme or reason.But maturity, commonsense etc > are most uncommon in this world. If someone was trying to do that to me then > I will directly put them one is to one before the other person. And why not? > Let the truth , real grievance, reality come out but then my ways are not > liked. And finally my family keep listening to such people and slowly > hypnotic suggestions take over and today it has taken over them.If I want to > talk to some of my family members then they run away, they get irritated, > they think I am outdated,they strongly believe I am unsuccessful. > > No one realizes that my working is simple, straightforward, adhering to law > which gives me peace of mind,security to family and name and fame to them. > If you are not cunning, not shrewd, do not use shortcuts then you may be > behind by many others in earnings but do not bring harm to self, family, do > not have to face embarrassment, courts, shame, jail etc.etc. But that peace > of mind is not appreciated and what is appreciated is showing off which I > have not been doing and many immature minds think I am failure. > > But see where more successful are Azhar, Kalmadi, Kanimozi, Manu Sharma, > sevral builders who assaulted others to get vacant possession ( Kini case) > but yet when my dear ones go to some posh places, parties then they feel > gloomy and ask me how is your business doing ?? One single instance can > proove a lot : we brought one old building in 1978. In 33 years we have not > made an inch of unauthorise construction which anyone can come and see. > Rather tenant / trespassers have. > We have had never any criminal case against us in 65 years of residence in > Mumbai.My grand father did not ghave BP or diabetes till he died at the age > of 99. My father does not have diabetes and BP he has just got @ 88 years of > age. By the grace of god at 57 I do not have BP / diabetes etc. Why ?? > Nither we have chased money/ nor we have done anything which will have > telling effect on health ( luckily no hereditary chances also) . > > Then why I am writing to you three this mail?? > I want to show to my dear ones success and money is not everything. If u get > that and loose health or go to jail then what is a use of that success. > > And three of you are the best persons to share your expirience of being in > Jail and what it means. As in the agitation against shameless dictatorial > Tiwari ( once IAS) and the then State Information commissioner had sent 10 > of you the respected activists to jail. Mr Afzal had narrated me how jails r > worst then hell described in shastras. > Those who want to experience hell on earth can just learn from your > experience and your sharing will help not only those who coax me to be more > successful like many others may well understand why one must not do any such > thing which will send them or their near ones or staff to Jail ( Reliance , > tata staff is in 2G scam in jail) . > > Hope you will all write your experience of Jail though for proud reason ( > like even Annaji was in Jail recently). I feel a documentry must be made and > warnings on license departments, marriage halls, tax departments must carry > how wrong doings are injurious to them and their family as jails are more > injurious then smoking but there are no prewarnings and hundreds go to Jail > for lavk of awareness which makes them act carelessly. > > > -- > Thanks and Regards, > Alok Tholiya (S.E.O.) > > WARNING : > > SMOKERS VISIT TATA CANCER HOSPITAL > GUTKA / JARDA /MAVA EATERS / CHEWERS VISIT REHABILITATION CENTER STARTED BY > MANEKCHAND GUTKA NEAR PALGHAR > ROUGH DRIVERS TALK TO SALMAN KHAN > DEPRESSION PATIENT IF NOT GETTING TREATED MUST VISIT SHOCK CENTER WHERE > THOSE WHO DELAYED AND SPOILET CASES ARE TREATED. > THOSE WHO ARE ACTING IN A WAY WHICH LEADS TO JAIL FIRST VISIT JAIL / TALK TO > ONE WHO WAS IN JAIL. HURRY CREATES WORRY. > AND I CAN GO ON BUT ......INSTEAD DON'T ACT DEFIANTLY AND TAKE PATH WHERE > YOU SACRIFICE SOMETHING TODAY FOR BETTER TOMORROW. > > >

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I do pick up something from your mails....Pavan Jain

Feel free to use delete button and relax .........o​r read this personal mail of mine..but always feel empowered From: pavan kumar jain ✆ to me Thanks Alokji. Pl. continue sharing your thoughts. I may not be responding to many of them, but I do pick up something from the same. Regards, Pavan K Jain

Reply to query raised by Shri Bharat Chudiwalaji ....Seat Belts Save lives????

Namaskar. I want to simplify life by saying we should not delve in to all issues. Human rights, dignity, development , corruption free society, right to get lawful work done in right time, are issues which we must all be alert and protect our rights and for which we have to be alert, thinking, vocal and if needed should fight for like Annaji and commonmen and even media did recently. But many other things we must leave on sensibilities of govt. machinery like traffic rules, pollution, population, dance bars, gutka, smoking , saving greenery, protecting wild life, conserving resources etc etc If there r no enough rules then we may raise issues but when there are enough rules then we must blindly follow them and be a resposible citizen. These rules are framed after lot of studies, lot of efforts, experties, expirience go in to making rules. Since there r many countries who are already ahead of us in many ways so they face the music too before us so while framing a rule even our govt . experts take in to account how and why from issues affecting them and rules framed by them. Motor accidents are also similar issue. The modern cars with quick pick up and high speed and express highways / flyovers have come up. To control severe damage to drivers and passengers the belts are must. But not many care so the strict law. I feel even Air bags will be compulsory in a year or two. Country can not afford paraplegics everywhere due to car accidents. Similarly speeds are also regulated by authorities. So to avoid severe accidents as happened in the case of Salman Khan there r speed limits and everyone must adhere to them without being smart or feeling superior or feeling he is VIP and is above law. Specially parents must educate teens to learn driving discipline as their life is the costliest and that is a age when they are negiligient. Similarly alcohol. Govt is doing their best to eduacte and punish such motorists but many still undermine the law and suffer or make others suffer. At times I find govt / ministry has made a very good law but even judiciary has unnecessarily intervrned. Like govt has to manage law and order, health of citizens and therefore they are best to decide timing of bars, ladies bar, sale of Gutka etc but thru PIL courts have intervened where they should not. But same judiciary has also passed so many bold and visionary orders that we can breathe a free air or if was fully left in the hands of only govt then we could be just living like in banana republic. So things go on ... we must delve only on very cocerning issues and let experts in bureacracy frame good laws and we follow them. Thanks and Regards, Alok Tholiya To: menow@yahoogroups.com From: bchuriwala@gmail.com Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 18:01:48 +0530 Subject: Re: [menow] Seat Belts Save lives!!! Dear Alokji, I have a question, which I often ask myself or even a traffic cop!!! Which is a better option??? To Wear a SEAT BELT and DRIVE FASTER!!! (You may SAVE YOURSELF, but what about PEDASTRIANS???) It seems we have forgotten NANDAs and SALMAN KHAN!!! or NOT TO WEAR A SEAT BELT but DRIVE SLOWER?? You save yourself, but more importantly you DONT KILL OTHERS!!!) Bharat

cold war in family turning in hot bloody war and reasons.....

Pl. comment on my reply to a querist on laweyers club abt problems in marital life Inbox x Dr. Leo Rebello ✆ prof.leorebello@gmail.com 11:42 (19 hours ago) to me COMPREHENSIVE COMMENT, ALOK.... KEEP IT UP.... From: Alok Tholiya Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 5:32 AM To: CAI yahoogroupps ; Jain Matrimonials ; menow ; MIFAC yahoogroup ; RESORTS TIMESHARE ; Santacruz Civic Forum ; CSEPI ; Ad Namitabh Kothari women issues ; Ad Rita Kapur Divorce Court ; Ad Sandeep Jalan ; AD shagufta qureshi ; DR Aksha Tholiya Jain Dentist ; Dr Seema Hingorany Counselor Bandra ; Dr Shubangi Psychiatrist KEM ; Dr. Anjali Chhabria Psychiatrist ; Dr. Anjali Chhabria Psychiatrist ; India parenting site ; Jain Unnati Lohade EYE Social Psychotherepist ; Psychologist Ann ; Psychologist Barkha Bajaj ; Psychologist KOMALSPARSH ; Psychologist Narendra ; Psychologists Invivo Edu ; Psychologists Prafulata Andheri ; Psychotherepist rajni agarwal ; Rani Agarwal Dahisar West ; SAARTH counseling centre and child guidance clinic ; THE MAHARASHTRA STATE WOMENS COUNCIL ; TISS EDU Nasreen Psycholgy and Gerontolgy ; uttam dave Psychologist ; Women issues Unifam Counselling Subject: Pl. comment on my reply to a querist on laweyers club abt problems in marital life 11 November 2011, 19:58 Bhaskar for SOCIAL JUSTICE Legal & Social Activist [ Scorecard : 1202] Thank the Contributor Send PM Suppose wife stays for very short period and desert the husband on flimsy grounds and husband tried his best to bring her through friends and relatives and ultimately files divorce then can wife ask fore share/alimony. 12 November 2011, 05:18 Alok Tholiya self employed [edit] [edit photo] [ Scorecard : 332] Wife will leave matri home for long for some reason which normally are grave / serious : 1. Majorly wrong with man or his family 2. She her self having some affair or similar reasons 3. She is having some psychological or physiological reason and is unable to enjoy physical relations. She needs to be shown to a psychiatrist / gyneac/ s*xologist as per her ailment which makes her fear from s*x / relationship. If 2 is true then u have to act accordingly. If 2 is suspected then u have to appoint detective and gather evidence. But normally if 2 nd reason is true then no one from her maternal home will support her and rather will force her to go back. It is not easy to live in maternal home for any girl . So we come back to 1. Is man a man? Is she feeling unsecured and threatened for her security? Is she forced to do something immoral?? Is she beaten by wife beater or bride beater in laws? Have in laws lied heavily and shown rosy pictures to her before marriage? Is husband having illicit relations?? Does he have relation with some one in own family or office like bhabahi / PA/ neighbor/ boss / colleague etc etc?? And there r many unknown / hidden reasons but which r grave for her but miniscule for husband. Untolerable to her but negligible to her husband. So difference widens. The negotiators and those who have gone to her are themselves weak. Spineless. Courage less. Sick and weak. If they were capable then they should first found the truth due to which started the cold war , they would have gone deep in to issues affecting relations with judged the issues from good social norms or from the affected parties norms and not from their own convenient norms. Say if a officer is corrupt and u go to higher up to complaint then what will be fate of your complaint?? In front of my house where a Chinese food stall comes up ever evening and works till 4 am and disturbs the whole locality. Once the citizens united and made a joint written complaint. With in one hour he came with group of goons with xerox of our complaint and threatened the whole locality and declared that police and municipal corporation both are in his pocket. So can u get right results from conscious less , sold out , morally weak mediators??? No?? So u have not sent mediators but those who can impose your dictates and she should agree to that?? Not true?? Then if u r in Mumbai give come and see me and I can resolve the issue but then any one on wrong foot will have to either mend his / her way or be punished. This is called independent impartial mediation. There r a saying in Hindi khud ka padya ghana bhaya means when u urself release badly smelling gas / fart u never run away from there but when others do then u become intolerant and run away from that scene.Most often a war escalates is not because other person is that bad but because we fail to acknowledge our own follies and how deep can be scars on others for same. A group of wrong doers do not find any serious issues in that, a family of drunkards does not find wrong in that, a group of liers say lies like they are saying prayers, those boys who use bad words habitually do not find anything wrong in that but the other person may take it as a very untolerable serious offense and shock and disgust and feel cheated if these things are new to him/her. If one understands views and resentments of other person not with own yardstick but with acceptable society norms or by other persons expectations and mends his / her way then most conflicts can be avoided. Are u ready to fall in line??? Then contact me for resolution. Thanks and Regards, Alok Tholiya,